[earlybike]

I stopped using Github for private repos for three years. I get them for free from Bitbucket and Gitlab. So, I think the actual contender to Gitlab is Bitbucket and not Github.

However, Bitbucket feels a bit more organized and mature (the UI). What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great. I still like Gitlab, it's always good to have competition.

[matteeyah]

> What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great.

We have an issue board built-in - https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/

If you have any suggestions, we'd love to hear how we can improve it (or any other part of GitLab; e.g. the UI) - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues

[sanswork]

Is there anyway to make issue boards the default on a per project basis so accessing them isn't a two step process?

[mgbmtl]

+1 this would be really nice. Currently we can choose between "latest activity" or "browse files". Adding an option for "issue board" (and "list of issues") would be great.

My non-tech colleagues get pretty lost when they go to the project's home page and see either files or a list of commits.

[jobvandervoort]

So as landing page? That is an interesting idea. I've created an issue. Would love to get your thoughts there: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954

[mgbmtl]

Thank you! I will follow/comment on the issue.

[jobvandervoort]

You should be able to access them directly today by hovering over the navigation item on the left for issues and selecting board there.

Or do you mean as a landing page for the project (I see a comment below here that clearly indicates that, will follow up on this, there)?

[sanswork]

That would be two actions hover + click. I'd like to be able to just click "Issues" and have the option to make it the issue list or the issue board.

[skinnymuch]

How is Github not the main contender just because of private repo pricing? GitHub is the Goliath here.

Also none of this has anything to do with up or down time.

[baldfat]

> GitHub is the Goliath here

For open source projects, but it appears to me that the enterprise projects are more BitBucket. This is just my experience, but I can't see how GitHub even competes with Enterprise Support that comes from BitBucket.

[skinnymuch]

Hm perhaps. Without any knowledge or info whatsoever, I'd think that Bitbucket and Github are close for enterprise too just because of how big Github is. And then Bitbucket obviously has the experience and integrations that Atlassian provides to be competitive. Still feels like the edge would go to Github Enterprise in terms of popularity and revenue if I had to pick one.

I'm also partially basing this on Atlassian's public company market cap and revenue. I believe Atlassian does close to $65M a month in revenue (they did $58M/month in the quarter ending in June)[0]. GitHub I believe does around $15M/month in revenue nowadays[1][2]. They both lose some money. I actually believe around the same amount, $4-7M a month. Jira, Confluence, and potentially something else have to take the bulk of Atlassian's earnings.

Gitlab keeps raising money at pretty high valuations so I'm probably underestimating the industry as a whole anyway and missing some info.

0: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-qu... 1: https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... 2:

[manigandham]

Github Enterprise has a lot of uptake in larger companies: https://enterprise.github.com/

[dominotw]

what does this comment have to do with parent comment about site reliability/uptime ?