[betadreamer]

Swift is a good language. Especially if you are new to Apple ecosystem. Objc looks ugly and scary. But after 5 years of objc, I actually like the bad things about it lol

What I don’t like about Swift is that it evolves every year. I already need to maintain new OS updates and new devices. I don’t want to have another thing that I need to maintain... especially the language itself.

[ivm]

It's weird how so many people bash Obj-C for the syntax. Behind the square brackets, it's just another OOP language.

The real problem is getting puzzling regressions because of an accidental message to nil.

[bsaul]

Block syntax ?

[ivm]

Snippets to the rescue. I don't remember their syntax but also don't type it (same for many other verbose parts of Obj-C).