[bagacrap]

I don't know what you count as "work" but the PMs I know are all way too plugged-in to email, work longer hours, and stress out more than engineers. I think it's harder for them to prove their value via concrete deliverables and so they compensate by excessive enthusiasm.

[latencyloser]

I think the 'way too plugged-in to email' is what bugs me. I'm the recipient of _hundreds_ of PM emails a day. As an engineer it's easy to see this as lots of talking and little doing. But you're right, it's probably a result of not being able to have more tangible results.

[droidist2]

I think it would help if we understood what kinds of things they're accomplishing through email, meetings, etc.