[amcca029]

> but with none of the advantages like great tooling, great languages, UI builders and so on.

Its funny you say this while using java

[e12e]

Using the jvm.

So java 9, Kotlin, Scala or kawa (scheme), abcl (common lisp), clojure (nu lisp:), jython, jruby. While there are compile-to-js languages too (including Kotlin, Scala, clojure :) - there is quite a lot more history around jre/jvm languages for production desktop use.