[troisx]

I'm a firearms enthusiast and was shocked to read that the rotating trigger mechanism wasn't outlawed. It almost definitely will be after this massacre.

I also think that this is a strong case of genetics at play considering that the shooter didn't even spend time with his bank robber father. The psychopath apple didn't fall far from the psychopath tree.

[ultimoo]

I understand everyone is upset about what this terrorist did, so am I.

However, we should be cautious about making statements about genetics. Apart from there not being any major scientific research behind it, it also leads to disturbing effects like the state detaining blood relatives of someone that commits crime because they will be more at risk of committing crimes in the future, thought-crimes, etc.

[Bromskloss]

> this terrorist

Do we know this? Do we know what his motivation was?

[RealGeek]

Does his motivations make it any less terrorizing for the victims?

[Bromskloss]

It strikes terror (in the sense of _fear_) into the victims there and then all the same, sure. I was talking about whether or not it constitutes _terrorism_, though. I mean, it's terrorism if the purpose is to spread fear in a way that will further some cause, but not every killing is terrorism, right?

[flukus]

Not yet, but considering the sheer amount of guns in his hotel and home plus the explosives I'm willing to bet something motivated him more than mental illness.

[Bromskloss]

I'm afraid I don't follow. Are you referring to something particular? (Sorry for being thick!)

[flukus]

They found explosives and chemicals to make more at his home: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-03/las-vegas-shooting-gun...

He's not just a random crazy person that bought a gun and went on a spree, there was a lot of planning involved, so he's probably a terrorist of some sort.

[dragonwriter]

Deliberately planning mass murder doesn't make you a terrorist, just a mass murderer; terrorism is defined by a very specific kind of motivation that is far from the only motivation for planned mass murder.

[adamnemecek]

> I also think that this is a strong case of genetics at play considering that the shooter didn't even spend time with his bank robber father. The psychopath apple didn't fall far from the psychopath tree.

Wow doesn't that fit nicely into some narrative. His phrenologic profile was off the charts too and a Virgo on top of that!

[troisx]

What narrative? That science is important? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2242349/#!po=15...

There's more where that came from.

[thebooktocome]

> It almost definitely will be after this massacre.

No new gun control laws came out of Sandy Hook, or any of the other mass shootings in this decade. Why should this one be any different?

[goatherders]

It won't. Our senators and congressmen are cowards.

[prostoalex]

I am not an enthusiast, hence the question - if outlawed, how difficult would it be for someone to re-create it in a metal shop, or with a 3D printer? I'd assume the designs are floating on the Internet somewhere.

[dingaling]

Even the hallowed 'automatic sear' is just an arrangement of small metal shapes and springs. The annual volumes of Jane's Infantry Weapons used to have diagrams and detailed descriptions of the sears' operation. It's only penalties of law that prevents people making or distributing them, not complexity or wizardry.

On the other hand the majority of NATO training emphasises rapid single shots, with bursts only for initiating ambush or breaking contact ( and usually only when authorised by the NCO ). Being limited to single-shot isn't therefore too much of a restriction.

[swsieber]

I think the lack of a father figure plays into more than genetics.

Additionally, fathers and sons share more than just genetics. They quite often share upbringing and culture. Not to mention the Father set that example of bank robbing.

[1wheel]

I was surprised to see how simple the crank modification was http://twozprecision.com/product/gatcrank-15/

Looks like a bump stock was used though https://apnews.com/e74a33083fb84b1b94c1ce3da986fd4f