[bassman9000]

Sadly, there's no way around this for a new company. It's how the market works today, and competition is fierce.

I think the idea is to add another opportunity to stretch, go out, socialize, and talk about something other than work, which is probably beneficial when working hard problems.

[andrei_says_]

No way around lost productivity, the possibly catastrophic cost of increased bad decisions and mistakes resulting from fatigue and sleep deprivation, and loss of key employees due to burnout?

[scarface74]

There is a war around it — employers can hire enough people to the job and workers can refuse to work long hours.

A consistent more than 40 hour work week is a deal breaker for me. I’ll work 50-60 hours on a project if I know I’m spending 20 hours trying to ramp up on a new technology or I’m trying to do something that’s new to me, but that feels different than management expecting you to get 60+ hours of work done