[wooter]

scoreboard really. name a single capitalist totalitarian dictator? Capitalism implicitly does not incentivize centralization of power. Now name how many successful western countries haven't embraced capitalism as, at the very least, their main source of funds to experiment with.

[frgtpsswrdlame]

>name a single capitalist totalitarian dictator?

Pinochet.

>Now name how many successful western countries haven't embraced capitalism as, at the very least, their main source of funds to experiment with.

Almost all western countries are capitalist I believe? Usually I take western to mean (1) democratic (2) capitalist. Besides as I'm arguing elsewhere, the failure of many socialist states is due to US intervention. Cuba's Embargo is a great example, the coup that placed Pinochet in power is another. America hates socialism/communism so it constantly acts aggressively towards those states while helping capitalist states. It's tough to look at the scoreboard and judge when the ref is obviously biased.

[wooter]

> Pinochet.

So just because he instituted some free market policies, hes capitalist? In no way did any capitalist figurehead advocate any of his violence. Also, what was Pinochet's body count? many orders of magnitude less than just Mao right?

> Almost all western countries are capitalist I believe? Usually I take western to mean (1) democratic (2) capitalist.

You are stretching the word capitalist beyond any recognition. It simply does not describe a government embargo nor aggressive government actions by any definition.

[throwawayknecht]

> In no way did any capitalist figurehead advocate any of his violence.

You should really do some research before you make claims like this. One place to start would be Marvin Liebman and the American-Chilean Council, which planted pro-Chilean propaganda in several high-profile conservative press outlets.