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by kennell 3186 days ago
> muh russian hackers

This nonsense is really getting old

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Well muh chinese hackers in this case. But same idea.

And yes, "it's the russians" is now a joke where I work when servers are down, or someone makes stupid mistake and breaks the build.

That's a pretty inaccurate and uncharitable "summary" of the article.

I mean, sometimes foreign governments do hack stuff, and when they do they will sometimes leave evidence of who was behind it.

It's far from conclusive in this case, and there's a lot of speculation, but the article is completely up-front about that.

Get used to it. Cyberwarfare is only going to increase.

And there's little doubt Russia interfered with the USA's election. To what degree is being investigated.

Because as we all know, the US is special and gets to fuck with everybody else's elections (up to and including the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government and state executed assassination), but do it to them and suddenly it's a warlike act.
> Because as we all know, the US is special and gets to fuck with everybody else's elections (up to and including the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government and state executed assassination), but do it to them and suddenly it's a warlike act.

I have no idea of your political inclinations, but generally I find it odd that the right is overall giving a pass to Russia with this. Deflecting as you are doing, and not answering the issue at hand.

Russia, formerly via Communism, was all but our enemy shortly after WW2. They are still an adversary. So, we decided it was in our best interest to fuck with them, and many other countries because we were "the good guys". Yes, this got convoluted and contrived, and completely futile -- especially w.r.t. Vietnam, the Bay of Pigs, Panama, and many others I imagine.

But even considering all that, it still doesn't justify Russia interfering with our election. Surprising? No.

But why are so many on the right giving Russia a free-pass? It all seems to be the same motivation that kept us in Vietnam for years after it was known to be a waste: To avoid admitting you were wrong; to try and save face.

I don't think they should get a free pass, so good job on your assumptions there, kiddo.

I'm more taking issue with people that are shocked, just shocked that other counties would treat the US the way that the US treats other countries. It's childish and amusing. The power of American Exceptionalism, what can you do?

> I don't think they should get a free pass, so good job on your assumptions there, kiddo.

The first sentence of my reply explicitly stated that I was not talking about you, just that you are doing the same thing the right is doing to deflect. Remember, this was your original low effort post:

>> muh russian hackers >This nonsense is really getting old

So to claim now that:

> I'm more taking issue with people that are shocked, just shocked that other counties would treat the US the way that the US treats other countries.

Is what you are taking issue with appears to be disingenuous. You implied all this Russia hacking stuff was nonsense.