[segmondy]

But I thought the internet removed all boundaries? Why do we need to be in the Bay area to have access to top tier of engineers? They are also everywhere else and let's say they are in the Bay area, that's what remote is for right?

[cachemiss]

We aren't going to agree on this, around remote employees. I believe there is value to co-located teams, not everyone agrees and that's fine.

The other point is, most startups do not need that talented of engineers, they think they do, but they don't. You don't want to pay bay area salaries if you don't have to, and in most of these areas, you don't have to.

If you are somewhere else but the bay, and you are paying people bay area salaries, but you aren't in SV, so you aren't raising VC like SV companies, I don't think that's a winning move.

[TeMPOraL]

I think people are still afraid of hiring people for remote work, especially for critical roles such as first few technical people in a company.

[vostok]

> Why do we need to be in the Bay area to have access to top tier of engineers?

Most people want to live in expensive areas. Top tier engineers can afford it.

[robertlagrant]

"But I thought the internet removed all boundaries?"

And yet inexplicably I still can't walk through walls.