[lern_too_spel]

What do you find creepy about your phone? The difference between Android and iOS is that with the former, you get to choose which services to use. If you want maps that track you to show traffic, you have multiple options. If you want offline maps that don't send any data off the phone at all, you have multiple options there too. Any of them can become the default maps app that gets loaded whenever you click a location link. Same for browser, email, phone calls, contacts, etc.

[zoul]

I think the point is that it’s a surprising amount of work to make all these choices right, so it’s sort of easier to pick a platform that aligns with your view on privacy by default.

[bigbugbag]

It seems to me you cannot make the right choice at all. In either case (android/iOS) you have to relinquish a very significant amount of privacy.

[lern_too_spel]

Another way to look at it is that there is a spectrum between privacy and usefulness where Android lets you choose any point on that line, defaulting to usefulness, while the iPhone forces you into a strange point on the spectrum between privacy and usefulness that doesn't seem to be a good fit for anybody. For example, Apple's email service and maps service are both significantly less convenient than Google's, but a privacy-conscious user would use neither (offline maps and PGP email), which is not an option on iPhone but is on Android with the simplicity of installing an app. Similarly, a privacy-conscious user would not want anybody to know what apps they have on their phone, which is not an option on iPhone but is on Android (simply don't install apps from the Play Store).

[matthewmacleod]

which is not an option on iPhone but is on Android with the simplicity of installing an app.

The iPhone also supports installable apps :)

[lern_too_spel]

But as I noted above, the iPhone does not let you change the default apps by simply installing them. Instead, you have to hack your device.