[KGIII]

I read the headline and my immediate guess was cryptocurrency. I clicked and, sure enough, there it was.

Maybe it's time to refine some of these ideas? While regular money does get stolen, maybe storing it online isn't the best method? Maybe requiring some human interaction is a good idea?

At this point, I can't really justify investing in any cryptocurrency. I'm absolutely unable to justify investing in any ICO.

If I opened a contract and my PayPal balance disappeared, I'd be pretty angry and might have some recourse. I'd absolutely have some options if it were with my credit/debit card or directly through my bank.

Good luck, folks. I'm still going to maintain the wait-and-see approach.

[thephyber]

> Maybe requiring some human interaction is a good idea?

What's the fun in that?

Did Samy say "Maybe I should ask the user if they want to friend me"? NO! He said "People want to friend me" and "LOL MYSPACE XSS", then became the most popular person on the network overnight.

After Tom, of course, who cheated.

[srcmap]

The story is almost like the 2008 time where wall street wiz kids package the mortgages to special mortgages back securities/contacts and resell them over and over again to banks, mutual funds, etc.

Hugh hype was created.

Last time: It was safe because it was back by mortgage.

This time: It is safe because it is back by crypto algorithm.

Last time few smart insiders got billions richer and unload everything before the bubble burst.

And the time ...... (Love to see all imaginable endings to this time's story - good or bad)

[KGIII]

In 2007, I sold my business. In 2008, I put a bunch into the stock market and property. It was comparatively dirt cheap. I made a killing.

I'd do the same with cryptocurrency, but I can't figure out how. My 2008 investments were pretty risk-free. Of course the economy was going to recover. It always does.

I've no idea how to do that with cryptocurrency.

[bhaak]

Cryptocurrency runs at a much faster pace than the usual stock market. Because we are still in a dot-com like phase and we haven't found the true valuation of the whole concept, yet.

You could make a killing because you knew from history that the market usually overreacts and the 2007 financial crisis was such an event. Everything went down, even stuff that had good fundamentals, so you could scoop up lots of good stuff in 2008 at a cheap price.

Such events happen in cryptocurrencies every few months because of the increased pace. Like a few weeks ago when the whole market dumped 30% because China was flexing their muscles again and now we are about 20% up from that bottom.

So, that was easy money. But OTOH, if you bought in Q1 and just did hold since then, you would even be up 3x. Despite the dips in between. Insane performance but nobody knows if we are 10x next year or /10.

> Of course the economy was going to recover. It always does.

That's the important point. We have a long history of the stock market and we have some rules of thumb how it behaves.

We are in the exponential growth phase of a new technology and we don't know yet if the cryptocurrency hype has passed its top or not. The concept of cryptocurrencies is certainly here to stay but how much worth will it be and even more important, how much worth are the coins and tokens that exists now going to be?

Look at the history of other new technologies and try to decide where in that cycle we are right now. If that's easy money is up to you :-)

[mhluongo]

What are you having trouble figuring out? Happy to help people into crypto

[KGIII]

Basically, how to bet that it is going to plummet in value and make money on that process. I figure it's a bubble and there's going to be a popping, even if it is done by force of law.

These ICOs are starting to make powerful people angry. Thefts like this one are starting to get regular media coverage. At some point, probably soon, the governments are going to come and clamp down on it.

Is there a way to long-term short Etherium or Bitcoin?

[mhluongo]

A long term way that doesn't bankrupt you first? I doubt it, but I don't know your financial situation.

Plenty of exchanges will offer you shorts if you're that confident, though. BitFinex and Kraken come to mind.

[flashmob]

Media coverage is negative only because that's what people like to click on. I think government regulation will only legitimize it and bring it to the masses.

[KGIII]

This very thread is about a negative. Would you rather they just ignore it?