[thinkMOAR]

I use a ton of registrars, almost all have equal simple dns management as CF. Which requires a party less to use or leak traffic information to.

[_eht]

What is the turnaround time for DNS to propogate on all of those registrars? Are you forced into waiting for TTL's to expire?

I may be wrong but I think eugeneionesco is referencing instant DNS changes which come as a benefit of using Cloudflare and other large DNS management companies. I've never personally seen a registrar offer anything like that.

[eugeneionesco]

Almost instant DNS change is something that I kinda take for granted. Surprising that's so rare...

[mugsie]

well ... the protocol was designed not do that.

DNS is "just" a globally distributed, eventually consistent, key:value store, with a ton of caching built into it.

Also, while it may look instant to you, it may not be to your customers / users / other internet people.

[JakeTheAndroid]

While DNS caches can sometimes impact DNS updates, we rebuild the entire zone file when a DNS value is updated, and purge the previous cache. Even for customers, this should happen pretty quickly. We maintain a 5 minute TTL on all proxied records internally. So, this happens much faster than most other DNS services.

[mugsie]

Yeah - that's a pretty standard way of doing things, and thats how DNS servers themselves will operate (mostly) when you make an update to a recordset.

Its not your cache that is the issue.

People have miss behaving caches, that do not always respect TTLs, some apps can cache the DNS response (I remember a Java issue where the initial value found was cached for the lifetime of the process!).

[JakeTheAndroid]

The TTL publicly is static and doesn't matter. The resolver you hit will just point to Cloudflare NS. Why we are faster, is because we point internally, and we don't have misconfigured TTLs or caching (I mean, things happen but it's not common). So once you update the global resolvers your visitors would hit to point to CF, their cache/TTL should never matter since we dictate where our internal DNS points the requested record.

[ryanlol]

This is a secondary issue. Lots of shitty DNS hosts do not immediately start serving the new records when you push an update.

[always_good]

It's instant because CloudFlare isn't changing DNS records, just where its pointers point to.

Look at it / try it.

[iancarroll]

Their DNS changes are fast even when the site is not being proxied through CF.

[mugsie]

Yeah - the global propagation time from you hitting save, to it being live in all their POPs is impressive.

As a reformed Akamai DNS customer it is like time travel :D

[mugsie]

I have, and I use it.

Thats not DNS, that is global load balancing.

Try using something other than HTTP over that FQDN.

[rasz]

are you one of those people running DNS with TTL measured in tens to hundreds of seconds?

[eugeneionesco]

You don't leak any traffic information if you don't enable the proxy, which I don't.

I like the simple easy to use interface and the fact that all the domains that I manage are there, no need to login to multiple registrars.