[bad_user]

Do you feel like that about vaccines and people refusing them as well? Or what about smoking in public places?

Because the way I see it, this is more than the health of the individual at risk, being about the health of the group.

[BuckRogers]

I didn't see you "imposing" your views on anyone. People can adopt what they will. I don't advocate for laws against free choice, but I am for social pressures against unprotected sex. It's a good thing, saves a lot of pain and lives and there's absolutely no need to apologize if someone wants to take that out of context. As if you're advocating for the police to round up sexually active teens.

[noncoml]

> I am for social pressures against unprotected sex

What is this if not trying to make other people live their lives following your way of thinking?

[BuckRogers]

I'm more than willing to bet you are happy to voice your opinion on any given subject, including this one as you try to snuff my viewpoint out with claims about my attempt at oppression. Why can't I add my own opinion and voice? Just because you don't like what I think.

This is the same misguided logic you tried to use on bad_user. You really don't get it and honestly I don't care if you ever do or not.

[vidarh]

I find you comical that you are for social pressure to avoid behavior you don't like, but are complaining when others apply social pressure.

Free speech does not mean freedom from criticism.

[BuckRogers]

You can find it as comical as you want but you're making the same mistake noncoml did. He said bad_user was trying to impose his view on others and that I'm trying to make people think my way.

bad_user and myself are both influencing others. We're not imposing anything at all. He's fine to criticize if he wants, that wasn't the issue at all. He didn't understand the difference between social pressure (which I'm advocating along with bad_user) and imposing. They aren't the same thing.

He's trying to split hairs with everyone on HN and not be intellectually honest so it's not worth discussing. Very easy to see what bad_user and myself meant. But the downvotes on noncoml's post speak for itself, most people are getting it.

[vidarh]

I don't see how I'm making a mistake at all. What I found comical was your statements about social pressure in the context of your complaints.

Now you're repeating the complaints, and on top of that splitting hairs while complaining about others splitting hairs while doing so.

To me your responses just makes this whole exchange look sillier.

[noncoml]

I don’t know man. I am just presenting my arguments. You are the one who is taking it personal, counting votes, and have to resort to personal attacks(“splitting hairs with everyone”, “not be intellectually honest”)

Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn’t mean you have the intellectual honestly and he doesn’t.

Also, if it’s not worth discussing, just stop discussing. What’s with this passive aggressive statement?

Btw, since downvotes seem to be important to you: every single reply of yours in this thread is negative.

[noncoml]

Why do you think I am trying to snuff your viewpoint? How did I prevent you from voicing your opinion? My reply was just:

"> I am for social pressures against unprotected sex. What is this if not trying to make other people live their lives following your way of thinking?"

Yes, I really don't get it how is this preventing you to voice your opinion.

I honestly don't care what you think or support, but when you are suggesting "social pressure" in order for people follow your opinion then you will find me calling you out.

[noncoml]

Yes, I do feel the same about vaccines. If nothing else a person should be a complete master of their body. But this is another conversation.

If you don't see the difference about public smoking and unprotected sex, then I don't think there is any point discussing this.

However your original comment sounded more concerned about morals than public health.

If it was the later and I misunderstood it, then please forgive me.