[nulagrithom]

How is it legal to tell someone they won't be working at their job anymore, with one day notice and presumably unemployment benefits considering it's part of a reduction in force? I would certainly hope that remains legal.

[pavlov]

That's the American expectation, but most European employment legislation disagrees -- that's probably the root of the question.

[fred_is_fred]

HPE will give severance. You don't start unemployment the next day.

[yeukhon]

You are unemployed. You just have some money around for a few months (usually 3 months) to look for a new job. It's tough out there to get a new job, even senior engineers have hard time getting through interviews.

[troyk]

Our market (Sacramento, CA) is so hungry for senior engineers (for web or mobile), I'd wager max 2 weeks to be back in the saddle. But I doubt HPE has much talent for web-stacks, likely Microsoft/.Net and SAP experience which I can agree with your statement.

We just interviewed a PM from HPE and to our surprise, he makes ~$180k a year. We hired an awesome candidate for $80k.

[jcadam]

$80k is not senior.

And no, finding a job in 2 weeks is not realistically obtainable for a senior engineer. Try 6 months to a year. This whole 'developer shortage' BS I keep hearing needs to stop.

And besides, most employers' hiring timelines (from first contact to first day on the job) are longer than 2 weeks.

[troyk]

$80k is what we paid for a PM, not a senior engineers. We pay our seniors $120-$250 depending on how their domain experience maps to ours, and if you want to live and work in the Sacramento Area I can have you interviewed, vetted and on-boarded in less than a week. Being in Sacramento, we have lost talent to the Bay Area for top candidates coming into the state that want to work for a more known entity and a have a larger network work within.

No BS or bad vibes; Just real peeps writing code and having fun doing it and always looking to add great people to the team because the demand is high and experienced talent is in short supply.

[jcadam]

Fair enough. Sorry if I sounded snippy, I've been job hunting recently and am a bit jaded :)

[zghst]

2 weeks for a job is pretty tough but not unachievable. I'm not the best engineer on the planet, however I've experienced probably a month into a job search there are some solid offers on the table. I'd go insane looking for a job for 6 months, at month 2 I'd feel there was definitely something extremely wrong.

[fred_is_fred]

Don't discount the experience based on the company name. HPE is still a big broad place that spans from HPUX to web apps to SaaS to consulting.

[yeukhon]

Here are reasons why one can't:

* you shouldn't work for a job you are not going to be happy about (of course you can't be too picky)

* because interview sucks (numerous highly regarded engineers were turned down by big tech companies)

* because some jobs require you to move despite you like the job

Good for HPE PM though.