Member of open-minded community that values data, science, evidence, citations, and proof dismisses strongly correlated conclusion due to ideological insubordination, news at eleven.
There is a correlation between the % of Muslim population and # of acid attacks. This could be interpreted different ways (i.e. perhaps Muslims are being targeted by others?)... But to call someone's viewpoint alt-right dogwhistle because they bring up the other obvious possibility is close-minded and is what leads to these sorts of problems in the first place.
Again - I'm sure you could locate the source or find much more recent maps to show the correlation. The borough with the second highest Muslim population currently has the highest number of Acid attacks.
At a glance, those two maps don't really correlate, and are completely useless anyway - if immigrants are more likely to come to poorer areas, for example, I could imagine a link between crime and poor areas in general, so acid attacks would be highest in those places anyway.
If you want to make such a outlandish claim, you need real sources where this has been studied and thought out carefully.
Sounds to me like you are making up statistics to push your narrative. It sounds a lot like the "black people are only x% of the population, but y% of prisoners in the USA!" you hear racists hark back to a lot. See a vague correlation, assume causation.
I would like to point out that, anecdotally, the articles you read about this in newspapers do generally have that pattern. Not always. Does seem to involve love in pretty much every single article I've read. The biggest part of those incidents, however, is muslim families imposing punishment on daughters. And yes, they often do it specifically in ways to minimize punishment. Not just by selecting the weapons, for instance they have minors do it, or they do it in large groups so everybody has to protect eachother and there is no single responsible person.
I also dislike your implication. Just because numbers don't seem to pass your standard (which isn't a coincidence, those numbers are very politically charged) does not change the fact that it is very much a problem that muslim communities impose their "values" on women (and elderly, and kids, and ...) with violence in immigrant neighborhoods in the west. Most worrisome these days is that not a week goes by without an article how some banal government intervention (fire brigade, wasps, car crash, shoplifting, ...) goes by without muslim youth attacking everyone, the police, firemen, bystanders, ...
But if you want to see whether this is happening or not, just go there. They've got good food (if you like it), and it won't take you very long to see aggression in the street against women at all. Probably nothing as serious as acid throwing, probably just shouting, but you'll see it. In the evening, especially on fridays, you stand a very good chance to see a physical confrontation between the police and locals near the police station or perhaps the train station.
Search it and you'll see just how common and normal these things are. Or visit.
I don't care how much your worldview depends on denying these things are real. They are fact, they are obvious, and they have become so banal, so normal, and in some cases so brutal. Meanwhile, you'll never read about these incidents in either the normal press, or on the BBC or newspapers, and figures detailing these events are so absurd they're utterly ridiculous. More and more stories of people forced out by "crime" (somehow specifically targeting them and not others) keep finding me and dismissing all of them as if this doesn't exist, well, I wish you wouldn't do that.
Again, you are making wild, spurious claims with no evidence to back them up. You are the one making assertions about entire races and groups of people and then going "but why should I need strong evidence?"
I can find you a similar number of articles, youtube videos, or whatever of white English attackers. Your "evidence" doesn't show what you claim it does, and you are drawing incorrect conclusions from them. These are not "my standards" - they are the standards for something to be believable, to be valid.
You say "just go there" - I have! I currently live in a town with a very large immigrant population. I have lived in Leicester, the only city in the UK where you are technically a minority as a white English person. I did not see what you are describing.
You have seen a trend of articles and extrapolated them wrongly - it's a common mistake, but one we have seen before. It could be your sources are biased, reporting on those cases more, it could be that the link you are inferring is wrong, it could be that you are selectively remembering articles or picking them out. There is a reason we rely on more than "well, I remember a lot of cases of X being reported" when understanding the world.
Your claim it's all some conspiracy being covered up is untrue. If it was true, where is the evidence - your anecdotal evidence isn't useful. If that's all you respect, well, my years of living in places that fit this bill provide plenty of "counter" anecdotal evidence, so even by that (terrible) standard, it's rubbish.
If your claim is so "obviously" true, then prove it. Find the statistics - show the correlation is there, show that it's not other factors making the correlation.
Focusing on just the UK as if it was some mystically isolated scenario is intentionally skewing the statistics and the discussion to allow for demographic plausible deniability.
I'm not here to assert the correctness of my position, for the record, especially since I've already pointed out one only has to look at similar cases from Germany and Sweden. I've already placed my bets on the inevitable rise of European private prisons within the next ten years.
I don't understand your point - the thread is about the issue in the UK - it could be completely different to the issue in other places. Your assertion that it has to be the same is, quite frankly, naive - existing crime levels, media exposure, existing acid attacks could all make the situation massively different.
Sounds to me like you are saying you have no evidence for that claim.
