[dataisfun]

Completely agree. Survival past that point would probably be a worse outcome. Just imagine the long tail of life when fully aware of humanity's self immolation. Combine that with the fact that most of the people likely to survive are the most paranoid of today's preppers, one shudders at the thought of plodding through an existence trapped in the most neurotic subreddits come to life.

[mulmen]

I'm not convinced that peppers are as prepared as they think they are. Post-annihilation we need people who build civilization, not that hide in holes. Good luck living in a shipping container surrounded by a few inches of Quickrete from Home Depot while a hungry mob led by the most charismatic survivor looks for a way in.

[AcerbicZero]

You are seriously underestimating the paranoia in parts of the prepper community if you think they don't have contingencies for that exact situation.

[jamiek88]

There will be more hungry humans than they have bullets.

Also, hungry humans will have bullets. It's America.

[AcerbicZero]

I mean, this topic is pretty far from any reasonable assumptions, so if you want to base your doomsday survival plan on charging into the killings fields of a crazy dude with pallets of ammo and AR-15s be my guest.

I was just highlighting the point that some people are exceptionally over prepared for just about any scenario, not trying to argue the merits or morality of it.

[flukus]

None of them seem to account for human spite. After a certain point survivors might just try and seal up the bunker entrances or cave in a bunker entirely, or at least use the possibility as a bluff.

[AcerbicZero]

That seems like a perfectly reasonable angle of attack, but the number of assumptions in play make the whole thing meaningless.

My original point was only to highlight that certain people really are almost hilariously over prepared for just about any eventuality, and any assumptions made should probably take this into account. I wasn't suggesting they were right, or wrong.

[eternalban]

And thus "civilization" re-emerges from the ashes. [/s]

[mulmen]

I'm sure they have thought about it, I just don't think they have a workable solution.

[tyingq]

I think churches are more likely to emerge as the new government. Arguably worse.

[QAPereo]

I think Babylon 5 got that right, in the aftermath of, “The Great Burn,” although we’d be in it without outside help. Religion would emerge, but it might get a lot more primitive, and we not might bounce back in a meaningful way.