[lvoudour]

>Maybe it’s a good time to talk about the fact that school is largely a waste of time.

I strongly disagree, but I'm willing to hear a viable alternative that covers millions of children/families (eg. no private tutoring or homeschooling). Let's not forget that school also helps children socialize and parents focus on their work.

[adamnemecek]

Right, give them a desk and a book.

> Let's not forget that school also helps children socialize

Yeah don't force me to socialize pls.

Also how much time is really given in school for socialization?

[lvoudour]

>Right, give them a desk and a book.

> Yeah don't force me to socialize pls.

Most people like socializing and benefit from it (which in turn benefits society), you can't possibly ask for a system that caters to the few who don't like it. The "desk and book" may work when you're in college but it definitely doesn't work for children. Even in college you have professors/lecturers to guide you (and check your progress).

I think you're just making general assumptions based on your own experience and abilities. Not everyone is like you (or me for that matter, I too prefer reading a book than being lectured). I personally know very few people who enjoy educating themselves (let alone children and teenagers)

The only serious alternatives through history are private tutoring and homeschooling. The former requires wealth, the later thoroughly educated parents with free time. They just don't scale to millions whichever way you look at it

[adamnemecek]

> Most people like socializing

Debatable at best.

> and benefit from it

Again, debatable.

> may work when you're in college

Yeah it doesn't. I still need to go to classes, do hw and what not which really cuts into my reading time.

> Not everyone is like you

Right, maybe let's setup a system that can cater to people according to their needs, how about that.

> I personally know very few people who enjoy educating themselves (let alone children and teenagers)

That's because their only experience with education is sitting in a classroom for 6 hours a day talking about dumb stuff someone once upon a time deemed to be worthwhile to be a part of education.

> They just don't scale to millions whichever way you look at it

Unless you've tried it, don't say it doesn't work.

[thriftwy]

> you can't possibly ask for a system that caters to the few who don't like it

But what if I do?

[lordfoom]

> Right, give them a desk and a book.

How do you propose they learn to read the book?