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by infinita740 3200 days ago
Meanwhile they allow locations services to continue even after the user "turns off" the wifi following android footsteps(1). So tracking in apps will be worse for users.

As a customer really it seems they talk a lot about privacy yet implements "sneaky" changes like this, it seems a bit dishonest.

1. I know the feature is a different in IOS (it only disconnects connected devices) but for location services/tracking this is effectively the same as android. see: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086

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Can you clarify? Turning off wi-fi does not and should not turn off location services. Turning off location services is a separate Settings page on all recent versions of iOS.
You seem to be confused about that post. That only refers to turning off WiFi from Control Center. If you go into settings and turn off WiFi, it will actually turn the radio off. Separately, in Location and Privacy, you can disable location for your whole phone or on an App by App basis. Control Center WiFi is not tied to this.
It is a massive step backwards though in my opinion, changing the functionality of the toggle in control center from disabling WiFi to just disconnecting the device.

A privacy conscious user now has to do 4 actions (Unlock, open Settings, WiFi, disabling it) instead of two (swipe up, disabling it) to disable the WiFi.

I doubt many normal users would notice the difference, maybe thinking the toggle has the same functionality as before thus thinking they won’t constantly broadcast their known WiFi networks and thereby the pretty accurate location of their frequently visited places.

Please correct me if I misunderstood something!

Edit: I meant standard as in: If no other option than SMS 2FA is available.

You got it, you're right, and I agree.

I rarely go into Settings to disable WiFi, but it seems like I'll have to start doing that now.