[52-6F-62]

Can confirm those numbers in the Toronto area. Maybe not at the absolute top end or the levels where job postings aren't even put out, but in the rank-and-file corporate and startup community, just take a look at any major job board lately.

[aianus]

I was making $145k as a junior rails dev at my last job in Toronto and they're hiring nonstop. Message me on keybase if you want to chat or get an intro.

[drspacemonkey]

Seriously? That's almost 35% more than I'm making as a senior Rails dev in Vancouver...

[switchbak]

If you're maintaining old-school apps in old languages, or you don't have a degree.

If you're talented, have marketable skills and an ability to promote yourself, you should be making at least 70k in most Canadian cities. Given the job market and cost of living increases in the last few years, this isn't particularly high.

Anyone settling for 40k or so (and not fresh out of school) I think should take a close look at other opportunities.

[52-6F-62]

I'm a realist, but that's a tad bit too jaded for me to take as is. I don't think you're all wrong, though.

You just could have done without that first and last statement. I'll inform the UNV you won't be signing up anytime soon. I don't see taking a low salary as settling in every case. Many Canadian businesses just simply cannot pay that level for certain skills, and if you want to believe in your friends, colleagues and fellow countrymen sometimes you take a hit to what you think you're worth to help build. I wasn't complaining outright, myself. I was adding a data point. Averages can be helpful information.

It's encouraging for other reasons that you're yet another counter-point promoting that there are better-paying opportunities, though. I'd hate to paint a grim picture. Regardless I love it here (in Canada. I could move out of the city again)