[alexasmyths]

Yes, it does help.

A) They have massive operations internationally and hire a lot.

B) Did you witness Microsofts dismantling of Nokia? That was a takedown of an entire ecosystem and huge gift to Apple and Google/Android as well. Paid for by cheap taxes overseas.

[nradov]

Nokia never had a real ecosystem. That's exactly why they failed.

[alexasmyths]

Nokia had a massive eco-system of suppliers, tech providers, distributors, service providers.

For every one person working at Nokia, there was another, in a company, somewhere else selling to them, buying from the, distributing for them.

The same thing happened at BlackBerry.

I'm not talking about 'apps' - I'm talking about a 'business' eco-system and value chain.