[sharksandwich]

Brings to mind a great Teddy Roosevelt quote

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

[atiw]

Like :)

[atiw]

Why the down vote? I don't understand. I just liked that quote.

[huangm]

Because you can express that sentiment with an upvote, a comment should probably have more substance than just the fact that you "liked" the parent comment.

[jaxn]

Absolutely true. But -4 on both those comments seemed a little extreme too.

[minus1]

I can understand the first comment getting buried. That's really the only way to discourage the behavior. On the other hand, we could be more welcoming to new posters who clearly have good intentions.

I was surprised to find there is no mention of this in the HN comment guidelines. Maybe it could be added?

Apologies for continuing with the meta.

[atiw]

But if I up vote, that doesn't let the person know I up voted it. Aren't we supposed to let people know that I care? I am not sure anonymous up voting helps so much. It only says your link is popular, but you never get to see who liked it, and then you can not find out who they are. Because you never see their profile directly.

Are we supposed to only find new HNers by reading through all comments? Isn't that kinda counter productive? We being startup founders and all, we have so less free time anyways.

Also,is there some way I can see who up voted my links?? Maybe I don't know of it, and that features exists, kinda like some other features on HN, which are intuitive, but not mentioned specifically, and you end up finding them by just noticing them or by some other post.

As a matter of fact, I found up voting this way. And yes, I can be considered new, because I really used to be crazy busy (Being a first time entrepreneur (founder and a single programmer) did that to me). Besides I didn't really feel like I had anything to say, so didn't used to comment much.

(No prior active forum-ish experience, HN is the first, and sadly the only one I can be regular at even now. I am sure other good forum-ish communities exist like HN....some day....)