[mzs]

This has not been well thought out for part of the world.

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-08-13/expand-job-opportunit...

[ebspelman]

the prevalence of surgical masks in China might also be a challenge

[monkmartinez]

Sunglasses and hats too!

[hellofunk]

No, Apple has explicitly stated that hair style, glasses, hats, etc have no impact on the face detection.

[tetraodonpuffer]

so does it mean that to unlock the phone I just have to knock you out and put some sunglasses on you?

[hellofunk]

How would that be any different than knocking someone out and using their finger for the Touch ID?

[koolba]

Well for one thing it'd be a hell of a lot more work to cut off a guy's head vs. just his thumbs (if you want to unlock again later).

[tetraodonpuffer]

exactly the same, which means FaceID is not that much more secure unless as part of the authentication process you have to smile on cue or something

[ihuman]

Apple has said it will work with glasses and hats

[nicky0]

But not sunglasses.

[bambax]

What about twins? Does touch ID even work with twins?

[AceJohnny2]

No. They even brought up Spock and Evil Goatee Spock to mention that twins defeat it.

(I say "defeat". Schiller just said the chances of a false positive were higher with twins than the 1/1,000,000 base rate [compared with his claim of 1/50,000 for TouchID])

[saurik]

This was explicitly brought up by the presenter (though through the premise of an "evil twin" and a photo of Spock from Mirror, Mirror) and they said you should consider a password.

[return0]

that sounds like a lot of inconvenience

[TCM]

I am a twin and me and my brother managed to fool windows hello. I plan on going to an Apple Store with my brother to see if FaceID can't be fooled.

[amag]

Oh, this is very interesting! Please keep us posted!

[cynix]

Twins shouldn't be a problem. Even the ghetto facial recognition implementation in the AliPay app (a Chinese PayPal clone) can tell twins apart. Surely Apple can do an even better job.

[dschiffner]

Can still use a passcode

[elif]

The passcode doesn't let you get rid of the hideous screen cut-out, which seems to be primarily for this lock.

[M4v3R]

You would still need it for the normal front facing camera (look at the Essential Phone).

[amdavidson]

The cut-out also has the speaker, front facing camera, and ambient light sensor, or would you go without those as well?

[synaesthesisx]

Infrared should pass through thin layers of clothing with ease.

[return0]

it's all a plot to make women remove their scarves