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by emodendroket 3204 days ago
I, uh, do not see what that has to do with your friends being genetically similar.
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If one considers that the conservative vs. liberal spectrum in America has a statistically significant genetic [0] why would it not?

[0] - Jonathan Haidt's "The Righteous Mind"

I have not found little correlation between sharing my values and phenotypes, and short of DNA testing my friends that's all I have to go on.

Further, while there may be a correlation, it's far from deterministic. Experiences count for a lot in developing values.

We aren't blank slates. Genes inform a lot about who we are.
That vague truism doesn't seem like enough to justify racially- or otherwise genetically-based separatism to me.
The fact that you can't discern between justifying racism and pointing out that racism comes from deep seated biological impulses is pretty scary
How else am I supposed to interpret "is that really so bad?" besides justification?
You quoted me but I actually didn't say anything about race or genetics. My original response was to the parent which was claiming that "tribalism is avoidable" and I was arguing against that saying that humans will always self-segregate into tribes so it's unavoidable.

Examples:

- I had a friendship which originally started over shared nostalgia for a cantonese children show

- I was excluded from a group because I didn't know enough american pop culture references to get their jokes

- I stopped eating dinner with another group because I felt awkward being the only one not praying before the meal

- In another group, we only ever talked about programming puzzles and non-programmer friends (such as their girlfriends) learned quickly to leave us alone

All of these groups came together and/or left each other due to unwritten emergent social dynamics. You can never stop these clusters from forming. As long as you have groups/tribes, there will be people excluded based on the that tribe's values. Is that really so bad?

Hm, well, I don't know that I'd call those "tribes," and I (reasonably, I thought) interpreted "tribalism" to be ethnic or racial based on it appearing in a discussion of "Friends Are Genetically Similar."