[tmp234589]

On a side note looking at the job offers on the company site i can't understand why people that want to build a solid company would offer such a low salary. They offer 40k-55k for a senior engineer, 40k is like 2600 euros a month.

I think the french tech sector is shooting itself on the foot by not adapting salaries faster to the job market. Even floor managers in retail stores make more money in Paris. They will lose a lot of talented people to other countries like this. Plus salaries are rising anyways so yo hire some people at those salaries and then when you want to hire more people you need to pay the new ones a lot more so that generates tensions inside the teams because new hires are better payed.

And its a cycle, because software engineers in France are considered not worthy of big salaries, so they pay peanuts. Talented engineers just move to other countries and whats worse the number of new graduate engineers stagnates compared to the demand because people don't regard this profession as something desirable. in 5 to 10 years when demand for labor increases France wont be prepared.

Very short sighted thinking from ceos in france.

[pandascore]

Hi! Interesting thought here, But people we have in recrutement process ask those kind of salary we didn't made those up. And probably the salary in France are undervalued, probably talents will seek US salaries, but I don't feel that we are losing talents when I see the peiole we've hired, but I don't have the answer here and you might be right. On the salary range it's often wide because we are not looking specifically for senior persons: yes 40k for a senior dev doesn't make sense. Though The last idea doesn't make sense, salaries evolve during the life of a startup and they mostly increase so this scenario wont happen and probably short sighted thinking from you to think salaries are managed in such a simplistic way ;)

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Yes i know its not just you i was thinking more of the dilemmas of the developing software sector in Paris, congratulations by the way. What i see is that engineers are seriously underpaid in Paris at least. This is also the fault of french engineers, i think a lot of them think of money as dirty and are afraid to negotiate what their work is worth. And eventually that will generate a serious shortage of talented workforce for french companies. That situation could lead to the french tech sector not being able to be competitive with some other European countries like Germany.

[edit] I'm not even talking about silicon valley salaries. I compare the salaries to what skilled workforce in France earns which is minimum 4000 after tax per month, that is the lowest salary for highly prepared professionals where there is a lot of demand for workers. You have a lot of software devs working for half of that in France. For me when the reality of the workforce shortage hits the companies its going to be too late.

[pandascore]

And we are only talking about French salaries in Paris, in other smaller cities they are even less.. i agree and I already see at my scale a salary increase in average, probably in the right direction.