[fao_]

It's more mainstream than the $NEW-AWESOME-JAVASCRIPT-FRAMEWORK. Not being mainstream doesn't mean that something isn't awesome. There are lots of awesome discoveries trapped in research/academia because the overton window of the current technology community is shifted too far to "What I am used to", or because nobody cares to look.

Eventually some of these ideas will get dislodged and fall down to us, but you can't rely on that. If you read about Lisp's history it's very obvious why it is rejected by people at the moment.

[hoodoof]

>>> It's more mainstream than the $NEW-AWESOME-JAVASCRIPT-FRAMEWORK.

This sentence doesn't make any sense.

"Mainstream" means used alot - widespread acceptance.

Lisp is #33 on Tiobe after Cobol, Foxpro, Fortran and Ada. How you can compare that to the takeup of the latest JS nframeworks I don't really understand.

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

21 SAS 1.372%

22 Dart 1.306%

23 D 1.103%

24 Transact-SQL 1.075%

25 ABAP 1.065%

26 COBOL 1.055%

27 (Visual) FoxPro 0.932%

28 Scala 0.923%

29 Fortran 0.879%

30 Ada 0.787%

31 Crystal 0.756%

32 Erlang 0.733%

33 Lisp 0.690%

34 Awk 0.662%

35 Lua 0.648%

[criddell]

I was just looking at that same list. I'm surprised Lua is that low considering how many applications embed it.

[Jtsummers]

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-defi...

The reason those rankings are (mostly) useless is that it's based on search engine hits. An active, effective community that for whatever reason doesn't generate a million and one blog entries a month will not perform as well on the index. This makes it very useful for indicating fads in programming, but not reality.

[Jach]

There's also http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2017/03/17/language-rankings-1-17... which uses # pull requests on github with # of tags on Stack Overflow. Another biased methodology for sure, but it paints a different picture.