[SirLJ]

Personally I don’t believe a real AI currently exists today (with one military caveat bellow).

I am not in the filed and I am not even a developer, but I do enjoy building trading algo robots on the side (they are quite successful, so I am not sure what is the side anymore, my real job or my side project earning me more on a monthly basis) and I really keep an eye on the so called AI space, because I believe my systems will be profitable as long as humans are involved and trading the market (either manually or with algos)... Essentially what we see today are rule based and data driven systems, but the logic behind is all human with its own greed and fears (especially talking into the stock market context)

I think the real AI will come form the military (as all other great live changing inventions), so what I am looking for the determine if the singularity already occurred is something like this: news report about a drone swarm enters in to ISIS controlled city and kills all terrorists and not a single civilian casualty...

I hope you get the idea and who knows, the real AI might be as greedy and fearful as us humans, which will not be a good thing about the human race to say the least...

[marktangotango]

Interesting viewpoint, a couple of thoughts. Please consider the role of the largest bull market in history when judging your success. Many people have made this mistake, myself included.

Your example of singularity indicator is very Hollywood-esque. When i consider what an ai system would have to do to first determine who to target in such a scenario is much more illuminating. There are many paths to the singularity and strong ai, not all them involve software running on hardware, human augmentation and group minds being two. Your scenario may very well be possible today, though not desirable.

[SirLJ]

Thanks for the points, I have been trading trough 2 bear and 2 bull markets and back tested a lot more, so I have this one covered until the AI arrives :-)

For the my singularity scenario, it is just an example, but I do think it will come form the military, just like the jet engine, the digital photography, the internet, the gps... only this time around it might not be the US military complex, which can make it even more dangerous... in the end we all know what is most likely to happened when we meet more advanced civilization, especially home grown and "infected" with the "human dna" (greed, fear, etc)