| > The workers own the products that they make I'm still a bit confused. If the workers own the outputs of their labor, then if I produce a tool, algorithm or machine, do I own it fully? What happens when someone else wants to use my machine to produce other goods - can I lend it or sell it to them in exchange for other goods they own, or in exchange for labor vouchers they own? My point is that capital produces value when combined with labor - its multiplicative effect is why it is scarce to begin with. If it is to be priced efficiently, it seems to me that we are just re-constructing Capitalism from first principles. > labour vouchers, which are distinct from money because they are non-exchangeable with others. In the labor voucher system, why would anyone do hard labor when they could do easy labor for the same number of Hours? Who decides what labor is, and how are people incentivized to do scarce or useful work over non-scarce, non-useful work? The idea of all Hours being equal seems to intentionally flout the principal of comparative advantage. > The absence of the state does not preclude collective action or sets of rules. In the same way that if someone appropriated means of production and forced people to work the machines for wage, I would encourage revolution against them, even in an anarchist society. Oh, ok, so a State still exists, then. What attributes of this state make it "anarchism"? > There is no payment, this is the whole point of Communism and anarchism. Wage labour is off the table. I think you misunderstood me. By "who pays them" I meant: how are they rewarded for creating capital? Can they sell their capital on a market, or lend it out? If not, how do we reconcile the difference between the flat reward function for different types of work and their vastly different scarcities and social utilities? Do you acknowledge the fundamental principle that not all labor is equally useful? |