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by samstave 3217 days ago
>Can't trust ISPs to care about your security.

This is the kicker here:

You SHOULDN'T trust an ISP to care about your security - just like you shouldn't trust a the water company to select which Faucet/Shower head you install in your bathrooms.

Raw pipes to info == raw pipes to water (interesting aside, the Mayans always equated thought as being symbolized by water)

I am paying the water company for pipes to my house, I choose which faucets/shower-heads and use the water is consumed for.

Imagine if the water company charged me a different rate for Kohler Faucets used in the kitchen for washing my dishes, vs a Home Depot Hose used in the garden to water my plants? I pay the water company for the volume of water consumed. I pay the ISP for the bandwidth (volume of data) consumed.

Further, if the ISP is ostensibly providing my security to literally anything, then, by contract, they are assuming some of the risk? If "what we do is for your protection" -- then they assume full/some liability.

The water company provides zero such assurances. A broken pipe/leak/flooding/damage has no affect on the water company, my agreement/bill with them.

Further, the water company isn't injecting "paid supplements" (aside from fluoride, which we can equate to NSA backdoors in this example) into my water supply without my will (ads) -- they don't feed me a % of Gatorade in my water supply because Gatorade has a deal with the main faucet - or fertilizers into the garden hose because of a deal with Monsanto.

Source: My family owns an actual water company.

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We're talking about the water equivalent of having the feed to your house that first goes through an open rain barrel at the front of your house, something anyone passing by could lob cigarette butts or other garbage into.

You'd ask the water company "can't I provide my own connection to the water" and they'd say "No". Then you'd want another water company, but no such company exists because they're a monopoly.

At that point you'd be better off collecting water from your roof and filtering it yourself. The water company is not helping.

uh... no we are not.

Please explain yourself further, if I am missing your point.

Thanks

If the water company is the only water provider and they require you to use the specific faucet or they don't give you water, good luck arguing them with the fancy words and ideals.

In reality, water is considered utility but internet is not. Therefore water company can do much less than ISP.

How is internet not a utility?! Some day people will look back at today and shake their head.
If the INTERNET company is the only INTERNET provider and they require you to use the specific MODEM or they don't give you INTERNET, good luck arguing them with the fancy words and ideals.

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WTF state do you live in?