| At the expense of citizens. I disagree. An economy is not a zero sum game and adding people to it, especially people ready, able and willing to start working now is a benefit. Compare with children of indigents, who take up to twenty years to start being a benefit to other citizens. Twenty years! If the problem is people being drains on society without contributing, there's the place to start looking. So illegal immigrants, criminals if you will, would do worse. I understand the evidence indicates that's not the case. Would you at least agree that not every illegal immigrant has a desire to become a contributing part of the county they are entering? I would, yes. I can only go on the general trends; the general trend is that immigrants are willing to take risks and work hard to make better lives for themselves, wanting the opportunity to live and work within the civil society they're moving to, and illegal immigrants are too. All we have is general trends; there will always be individuals who buck those trends. As an aside, to me you seem very fixated on the idea of "crime" being a bad thing. Perhaps this is a difference we have. For you, me accepting this crime is slippery slope; crime is crime, accept one, you'll accept the next. For me, there's no slippery slope; just because something is crime doesn't actually mean it's bad or damaging, and if a person's crime is wanting to work hard and contribute to society, building a better life for themselves, that crime is less likely to lead to crimes that cause actual damage. |
I did not argue a zero-sum game, this is a cooked book. There will always be losers until that is fixed, and this is more redistribution. At least according to my understanding of general trends.
As for the crime, it is the enforcement, not the act. You are arguing for not having a clear code of laws. I am arguing for the opposite, and for the revision of said laws as deemed necessary by the citizens. Without law, we cannot hold individual nor government accountable.