[arca_vorago]

Hey, please don't judge American bread based on the cheap stuff in our stores (some of which have improved greatly on their own). Of course its not as good as it could be.

Maybe this is just a Rocky mountain, western thing, but when to you live out in the boonies, you make your own. Sometimes with a machine. Sometimes with just the oven. Sometimes just with camp coals in the ground. Even as a youngster I had sourdough cultures I kept alive for years.

The point is there is some bread in parts of America, not made at the store, that I would put up against anything but German or French. I do admit some of the recipes are learned from the better bread places. EG I have a handful of recipes I learned from the Mennonites (German Americans), Mormons, had a family friend from Ireland who finally shared the best potato bread recipe.

[newen]

The problem is the cheap bread you find in stores in Europe is miles better than the cheap bread in America.