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I was once at a lunch with one of the Franz Allegro lisp dudes and he said that he'd had an epiphany about the nature of Java and IDEs. He said Java does have macros in a sense, it's just that they're one way and built into the IDE.

I don't buy this argument that "enterprise" software requires enterprise languages and tools either. There are plenty of counterexamples of large, complex systems built in dynamic languages.