[gipp]

Those are only "benefits" if you don't have automatic imports, though. In an IDE the neatness of your imports is a non-factor in deciding package structure, and who cares about the size or structure of your import block? You never need to look at it and your IDE probably folds up that block anyway.

I was a vim purist for a long time, but even in Python, where IDE functionality is much more limited, I can't honestly compare the two experiences and say I'm not much more productive in PyCharm w/vim plugin. I can't fathom how anyone writes Java/Scala in plain vim, and Ensime is a cumbersome mess.

[heavenlyblue]

Speaking re. python:

IDEA also sorts imports alphabetically, separates system modules from non-system modules and removes the names that are no longer used if configured properly. How much time does someone spend doing this by hand (e.g. just simply reading through the list of them)?

IDEA also allows to automatically make the code PIP8-ready by using Ctrl+Shift+L.

I can refactor the name of the function with a basic shortcut, and I am 100% sure, even if it touches >5 projects at the same time - IDEA will replace them correctly. That could be done by a simple find-and-replace, but then I would need to keep my attention on whether that was a correct replacement. How many minutes a day do you spend trying to keep yourself aware of that?

There are literally so many details in working with moderately-complex Python code (e.g. type hints or lack of them; function arguments; unresolved names) that IDEA basically equals to a constant number of hours I save every day.

I am not going to argue - most of what I mention could be solved by automated cli-based tools; and that's exactly what IDEA does under the hood. By it keeps it all together in one place on my screen right now; here, rather than in a set of disjoint interfaces.

I literally do not get why people still use vim/sublime/notepad++. That's like cooking with a blunt knife. You may and will cook as good. But is it not justifying your laziness to go out and buy a proper knife?

[mikojan]

I find Java unusable w/o an IDE. However there certainly are languages that are easier to work with w/o one. Go being one example. Depends on design and available tooling. OT: For automatic imports (and formatting) run `goimports` or configure to run automatically on file save. Congratulations, here's also your error stack traces. (EDIT: I mean syntax errors) An IDE, in that case, isn't at all an obvious improvement. Quite to the contrary I find.