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by mercurysmessage 3220 days ago
I don't know why you insist on spreading this ignorance all over HN, this really isn't the place for your rhetoric.
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You violated the HN guidelines badly by perpetuating this hellish and tedious flamewar. Please don't do that again.

Moreover, your comment history has many cases of being uncivil to others, as well as using HN for political battle. We ban accounts that do these things, so would you please stop doing them? They destroy the things that this site is supposed to be for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sure thing, sorry. Just see a lot of things which probably shouldn't be here, but I suppose I should just flag and move on.
Ignorance? Well, please point out where I made an error - I'd be happy to correct it.
> All that happened is we were told we need immigration instead.

You say this everywhere, we discussed this already. You have an unfounded, ignorant view of immigration. You are so locked into your position that it doesn't matter what you are shown, you will ignore it and instead fall back to your ignorant position.

And please, tell me why a tech news aggregator is the place for ignorant anti-immigration rhetoric?

So the error is... where? If you think I am beyond saving, at least point it out for the sake of any not-yet-lost souls reading.
What is wrong with immigration? What do you have against people looking to move to new countries. When someone moves, they pay taxes, they work, they contribute to society.

It's not easy to immigrate, and often smarter, better educated people are the ones who get to immigrate. It's a benefit for the country that gets a lot of immigrants (i.e. The US benefits from this a lot), and a detriment to the country that loses them. Often called brain drain.

Employers can choose who to hire, a smart employer won't care if the candidate is born in the same country as you, it has absolutely no bearing on their quality as a human, or the work they complete.

If you live in North America, aside from the aboriginals, everyone is descended from, or directly an immigrant. What makes you so much better than someone else looking to move?

Again, a tech news aggregator is not a place for ignorant opinions on, frankly, humans.

You also haven't answered why you feel this way.

> You also haven't answered why you feel this way.

My feelings are irrelevant - they make my points neither more nor less valid.

Sure it does.

And your points are not valid, your point is simply that you don't want immigration. You aren't replying to facts about immigrants and immigration besides that it happens, and that people want it. We've all been immigrants at some point, so I don't see where you could possible come from in feeling so strongly about disallowing people from improving your country.

What is wrong with immigration?

Aren't you are attacking him for something he didn't say here?

Why are you defending this person so much here?

> All that happened is we were told we need immigration instead

What do you infer from this? It's pretty obvious.

This isn't the first time I've ran into this person.

Actually the following facts are true:

- western families have fewer kids

- some politicians - at least in some countries in the West - tells people we need immigration

You might not like it and as usual correlation doesn't prove causation.

That still doesn't give you the right to be uncivil here.

Uncivil? The uncivil one is the the one who spends most of his time on HN spouting ignorant anti-immigration rhetoric.
S/he was pointing out facts.

And s/he did so without accusing anyone of being "unfounded, ignorant".

And without accusing anyone of being "so locked into your position that it doesn't matter what you are shown, you will ignore it and instead fall back to your ignorant position."

Was it anti-immigration? I guess so. Was it off topic? Possibly, I'll let the mods decide.

But you are the one who bring the accusations.

An anti-immigrant stance is by definition unfounded and ignorant.

I know s/he is locked in their position because of how often they bring it up in threads all over HN.

It doesn't matter if I'm making an accusation. The other poster comments frequently on immigration on HN.

An anti-immigrant stance is by definition unfounded and ignorant.

This is plain wrong (edit: as can be proved by looking up the definitions.)

If you said racist, then I would agree.

But there are a number of good reasons to be sceptical to certain kinds of large scale migrations.

Edit:

I know s/he is locked in their position because of how often they bring it up in threads all over HN.

You have just admitted to the same in this very thread.

It doesn't matter if I'm making an accusation. The other poster comments frequently on immigration on HN.

Commenting on immigration is not a crime. If you think a comment is somehow against the guidelines then flag it: the mods here are pretty fair (and can flame people way better than anyone of us).

Well, racist requires there to be race so I'd argue xenophobic rather than racist, but how is that not ignorant?

Where was large scale migration ever mentioned? It's hard to migrate, that is a fact.

>Commenting on immigration is not a crime.

Neither is replying to a comment on immigration.