[athenot]

> Pharma companies develop drugs with US subsidies and make their profits off US citizens while European countries put price ceilings on their drugs.

You conveniently forget the European drug companies who develop drugs—and completely pay for the research—while negotiating price ceilings, and then export the same drug to the US, selling it 5x the price for pure profit (minus distribution/marketing/lobby costs).

Disclaimer: my Dad managed research at one of those large European pharma companies.

[kgwgk]

So they get (most of) their profit from the US market. How is that different from the point made in the message you reply to?

[derping69]

You proved my point, if US did what Euro countries do to us, European pharma companies would lose their primary profit source. It's a wealth drain from US citizens to Europe.

[alphaalpha101]

Maybe you shouldn't choose to have such a terrible healthcare system then.

[dang]

I appreciate that you've moved toward civility in your comments on HN, but we need you to go further, because comments like this add no information and are just rude. Could you please just be scrupulously civil and respectful and only post comments that have good signal/noise ratio?

Other users have reformed themselves this way (I'm one of them), so I'm sure you can, once you internalize the value of what we're shooting for here (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). It isn't primarily an ethical issue, if that helps; it's about trying to avoid degradation into boredom. Flame-style comments provoke worse, both quality- and quantity-wise.

[alphaalpha101]

Yeah that was pretty worthless as a comment.