[giantfuzzypanda]

Things like Lego Mindstorms help kids move on to the next step - maybe Visual Basic or Python. No one starts off with programming, it's usually WYSIWYG or similar paradigms.

[jamesbritt]

"No one starts off with programming, it's usually WYSIWYG or similar paradigms."

Or Excel.

People do the weirdest things with it, folks who would be perplexed if you suggested that their improvised use of a spreadsheet made them a hacker.