[AnkleInsurance]

I would love clojure as a native platform but I have very little hope that it will happen.

Clojure a greatest strength was being able to use all the mature Java libraries. The jvm is an incredibly sophisticated platform, regardless of how shitty Java is. Clojure script benefits from the same concept by being able to run on node, use npm libraries, run on lighter devices in a quicker start-up than regular clojure, etc.

Common lisp and clojure have quite a few differences, though common lisp is certainly on clojures tail with regards to adoptability in enterprise. Scheme is a simpler, truer to principle language than CL.

[devrandomguy]

Presumably, a native Clojure would be able to tap into the C/C++ ecosystem through similar FFI mechanisms. Granted, that code would be no more portable than the intersection of the platforms supported by each library, but that's already the situation with classic native code.

[AnkleInsurance]

Yes, but that's a fundamental difference, don't you think? Java interop works on almost every device, same with js. I'm the context of just portability, tapping into Java code is more useful than tapping into c++ code.

I get where you're coming from, but there's a long list of reasons why it hasn't ever been done very well, not the least of which being that it just wouldn't be as useful as people think. There's a million languages that can talk to c/c++. Guile can do it, ruby can do it, Julia can do it, there's already some lisp cousins/friends that have that ability.

I'm not super familiar with clasp, but I'd bet anything that its missing some major features compared to sbcl.