[jmcdiesel]

The point is, there will be false positives, there is no reason to get upset and hurt over them...

There is no perfect system. If its automated, there will be false positives (and negatives), if there is a human involved, you have a clear bias issue, if there is a group of humans involved, you have societal bias to deal with...

There is no perfect system for something like this, to the best answer is to use something like this, that gets it right most of the time... then clean up when it makes a mistake. And you shouldn't have to apologize for the false positive, people need to put on their big boy pants and stop pretending to be the victim when there is no victim to begin with...

[saurik]

This is the exact same argument for "stop and frisk", and that is just totally NOT OK.

[tree_of_item]

It's not the exact same argument because stop and frisk is not automated.

[saurik]

If isn't the same process being defended, but I clearlt didn't claim that: the argument used to defend the different processes, however, is the same. This "put on your big boy pants" bullshit is saying that people should accept any incidental harassment because false positives are to be tolerated and no system is perfect, so we may as well just use this one. If the false positives of a system discriminate against a subset of people--as absolutely happens with these filters, which end up blocking people from talking about the daily harassment they experience or even using the names of events they are attending without automated processes flagging their posts--then that is NOT OK.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/for-facebook...

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/07/facebook-censoring-lesbi...

[jmcdiesel]

Thats exactly the OPPOSITE of stop and frisk.

1) Stop and frisk is BIASED heavily on race becuase its a HUMAN making the choice...

2) Stop and Frisk is the GOVERNMENT, and therefore actually pushes up against the constitution.

How do you see these things are remotely the same?

[saurik]

The false positives are not random: they target minorities; these automated algorithms designed to filter hate have also been filtering people trying to talk about the hate they experience on a daily basis. They keep people from even talking about events they are attending, such as Dykes on Bikes. It is NOT OK to tell these people to "put on their big boy pants" and put up with their daily dose of bullshit from the establishment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/for-facebook...

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/07/facebook-censoring-lesbi...

[mcguire]

On one hand, one problem with automated systems is that they're perfectly happy to encode existing biases.

On the other, the Alphabet family don't have the support systems to clean up when they make a mistake.