[derping69]

The bigger issue I see is that by taking away these people's ability to discuss their beliefs they are going to be further radicalized. If they don't believe they can change things peacefully through protest they will become violent.

That's the main reason I don't agree with the banning of daily stormer and google banning Gab.ai from the play store. They are only further enforcing these people's beliefs that the powers that be are against them.

[kenjackson]

So should we instead replace NBC and make it the Daily Stormer network so they feel that the powers to be aren't against them?

No one is saying they can't discuss their beliefs, they just can't do it with the support of certain private companies. In the same way, if I owned a restaurant, I wouldn't allow them to host an informal "Daily Stormer Night" at my restaurant. I shouldn't be forced to having to have them use my restaurant as their unofficial homebase.

[ameister14]

>No one is saying they can't discuss their beliefs...

A lot of people are saying that.

Here's where it gets interesting. If you leased an apartment, could your landlord evict you for for hosting dinners in support of the KKK? That's more similar to what happened with the hosting and service provider denials.

[dragonwriter]

Housing law has special sets of protection distinct from even the law governing general public accommodations, so (without an argument that the specific service is be very much like housing), it's probably not the most reasonable analogy to use.

[kenjackson]

This depends on the terms of the lease. That seems completely non-controversial to me. There's a bunch of stuff in my lease that I couldn't do, which are perfectly legal in many other contexts (smoke inside, have a dog, have big parties, etc...). Likewise, a KKK friendly lease would also be legal and honestly I don't think you'd have a hard time finding people who would be willing to have you.

And I've yet to find someone who has said they can't discuss their beliefs. They just don't get "our" support to do it.

[ameister14]

So it's non-controversial for your landlord to evict you because they don't like your dinner guests?

[kenjackson]

As I noted, it depends on the terms of the lease. I was stating that if you violate the terms of the lease that eviction was non-controversial. That said, I'm not an expert in rental properties.

It wouldn't surprise me if all of these services have some verbiage in their TOS or contract that allows them the right to stop service if the content being served is deemed to be inappropriate by them.

[mvc]

Absolutely! I'd justify it by the potential risk of discomfort those guests pose to my other tenants.