[le-mark]

No, I really admire vala, my understanding it's kind of dead ie won't migrate to future versions of gtk. What's your take on it?

[MaxBarraclough]

I generally like the language, and its compiles-to-C model. It doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it is: a GObject-specific language, not really a competitor to C++.

I seem to recall that the bindings weren't totally up-to-date though. The latest GTK outpaced the available Vala bindings.

[nurettin]

My take on Vala is Lazarus. (Won't really miss refcounting once you get used to create/try/finally pattern)