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by ProAm 3226 days ago
Batteries don't last that long still, last I heard you get about 1000 charges before you need to do serious maintenance to a phone, in which case you'll probably want the latest and greatest anyhow.
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This is just another example of consumer hostile planned obsolescence. Rechargeable batteries are consumables. Most cell phones used to have removable batteries so when it wouldn't hold a charge any more you could easily replace. Now most phones have integrated batteries which can only be replaced with an expensive and inconvenient visit to a repair center.
You're niche. Most people don't care as long as their phone is fast and they can use their phone all day. By the time a phone's battery becomes unusably short (my iPhone 4s still holds a charge for about a full day), most people agree their phone is ready for replacement.
in which case you'll probably want the latest and greatest anyhow.

Why, if it still works fine?

//Nexus 7 (2012) user here

Oh and btw, it's very possible that speed is a software issue. Latest gmail app update tweaked a few things in how mailboxes are loaded and it's way snappier.

I have a moto g3 quadcore and 1G(maybe 2G)RAM. I cannot reason about slow performance for non gaming / pixel heavy stuff.

Anecdotal, but I have an Asus EEE from aeons ago (2010, I think?) that still has about 60%-70% battery health, which is not bad, considering that this little guy was brutally abused throughout its existence (it was my main PC in University).

I also have a first generation Moto G (~2014) and an app I have here (OS Monitor) reports 70% battery health. In practical terms, the battery lasts a day of normal usage.

On the other hand, I have a ~2 year old Toshiba, and Linux here is reporting 0% battery health and a "last full capacity" of 0 mAh. If I unplug it, it goes under in 5-10 minutes (factory battery life was about 2:30 hours).

I read that the biggest battery killer is heat, not charge/discharge cycles.

Regardless, and if I am not mistaken, that figure of 1000 charge cycles is for cycles of 100% discharge (or as close as you can get before the protection circuits cut in) followed by 100% charge. This rarely happens in the "real world" and thus that figure will probably be much higher when adjusted for real world conditions.

But when the latest is NOT the greatest, I don't want the latest.
I just paid someone to replace the battery in my Sony Xperia Z1 Compact, which is 3 years old this week.

It still works fine, although I do use Firefox with ad-blocking extensions. I doubt I'll need to replace it for at least another year.

I'm still using a Galaxy S3(2012) with no battery problems. I use it every day, and I don't even plug it in every night.
Amen to that. I just took this screenshot using an extended battery on my S3:

https://i.imgur.com/9dnRrA0.jpg

When I bought the extended battery kit it lasted from 3-5 days. 3 major Android releases later it is rivaling some dumbphones.

Not having to worry ever about battery life has been life-changing and I'm not going back.

I don't know, most of my phones are 4 years old and battery life is ok.