[technofire]

> All of this inevitably leads to a bunch of pissed off devs. The ones that are happy to eat it become the golden boys and get promotions.

The question asks about behavior that management repeatedly makes. If management repeatedly makes these mistakes, then the mistakes should become expectations, so one should simply accept them and understand that they are part of the game being played. If they are expected behaviors, being "pissed" about them simply is foolish.

Of course, by "accept them" I don't mean one should never try to influence or change the situation, but reacting emotionally rather than rationally is silly. Even if there are no upward-feedback or 360 review procedures in place at the workplace, one can articulate these concerns more diplomatically (less offensively) and send out an email requesting that they be considered. One can even illustrate and trace through how such mistakes have impacted recent projects.

It seems to me that the ones "happy to eat it" simply understand that others have limitations and make mistakes and will try to make the best of the situation. It sounds to me like such people indeed deserve the promotions more than people who bring anger to bear on their work.

[justin_oaks]

> one should simply accept them and understand that they are part of the game being played. If they are expected behaviors, being "pissed" about them simply is foolish.

Does this apply to athletes who are upset when referees seem to be consistently favoring their competitors? Does it apply to people living under an oppressive government? Does it apply to a person who is being verbally abused by a spouse?

Sure it'd be great if these people could seek to improve their situation through rational means, or perhaps just accept it if they can't change it, but humans and emotions don't work that way.

> reacting emotionally rather than rationally is silly

Humans are emotional creatures. Expecting humans, even yourself, to act rationally shows a misunderstanding of human psychology and behavior.

[Boothroid]

That sounds a bit like you are suggesting excusing bad behaviour, or blaming the victim. If someone warns you they are going to hit you before they hit you, does it make it hurt any less?

Also when eating it means 60 hour weeks to make up for terrible managers (all the while collecting their substantial pay packets) I'm quite happy to walk out the door and let then find someone else to be abused.

Passed a telephone interview today, got a f2f next week, hopefully onwards and upwards soon.