[davedx]

I've also read Chomsky and lived in a country (the UK) with 'incitement to racial hatred' laws for most of my adult life. There are many countries like this. I have a carefully held belief that there should indeed be certain limits on free speech, and these countries get it more or less right.

Believe it or not, you can actually be 'left' or 'right' wing (or anything else) and hold more subtle positions than absolute, black and white. I think this is a huge problem in discourse in the USA right now. People believe that everyone is completely divided and polarised at opposite extremes.

It's incredibly ridiculous. You can hold many varying positions, and I think people who are completely absolutist are in the absolute minority. Just look at this thread.

[Chris2048]

> lived in a country (the UK) with 'incitement to racial hatred' laws for most of my adult life

Do you trust GCHQ?

[davedx]

No, but that's a separate discussion.

I agree with the laws.

[Chris2048]

Proposed cryto ban, high government surveilance, "nanny state" legislature.

With all the secrecy around the law and its effects, its not such a tangent.