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by larsiusprime 3228 days ago
How about ISIS?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-opisis-cloudflare-refuses...

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Wow, yeah, this article should be higher up. Choice quotes, from the same guy, regarding taking down ISIS sites:

Speaking with IBTimes UK, co-founder and CEO of CloudFlare, Matthew Prince, said that his company would not be blocking its service to websites listed, as it would mean submitting to "mob rule".

"Individuals have decided that there is content they disagree with but the right way to deal with this is to follow the established law enforcement procedures. There is no society on Earth that tolerates mob rule because the mob is fickle," Prince said.

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"We're the plumbers of the internet," Prince said. "We make the pipes work but it's not right for us to inspect what is or isn't going through the pipes. If companies like ours or ISPs (internet service providers) start censoring there would be an uproar. It would lead us down a path of internet censors and controls akin to a country like China."

Must have been in a pretty bad mood.

They already do, with TOR.

They can die in a gutter, for all I care. They made their line, with the political dissenters, the quiet, and the the hidden. But you know, blame the "bad people" and the "abusers".

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot?

They killed _millions_ for arbitrary reasons. What about them?

What about them? How were they not fascists, for all practical purposes?
> How were they not fascists, for all practical purposes?

What does fascists even mean these days?

Real fascists wounded my grandfather and he pushed them back all the way to Berlin. My teacher wintessed German soldiers raping and dismembering their childhood friend.

It seems these days I see a lot of "everyone I don't like is a fascist". Trump is a fascist, the barista this morning who made me a late instead of a cappuccino is a fascist, etc. Pol Pot committed terrible attrocities that doesn't make him a fascist, he was Communist.

How about literal neonazis waving swastikas, calling for violence to exterminate Jews and blacks? Ones literally identify with Nazi facists.

Do you not accept a line where free speech threatening violence harms other free individuals? This isn't a thought excercise, the Daily Stormer is a group calling for the extermination of people based on race and religion.

"Do you not accept a line where free speech threatening violence harms other free individuals? "

I don't.

I rather have people saying out loud, that they want to kill me, than saying it it in private and then just doing it ... so I - and others (like police) know whats going on, and can prepare for them.

If you forbid things to be said out loud, they will just boil hiddenly, until they explode.

I guess not all murderers and murderous philosophies are created equal, huh?
how about the purpose of self-identification rather than convenient relabeling that i'm sure has nothing to do with your political allegiances?
Convenient relabeling? I beg your pardon? Aren't you just conveniently making up shit right now?
What about ISIS are they citizens of the US?