[Swizec]

> I hate those games, because the moment you become human, and try to do something intuitive but undefined and unwanted by the programmers, you get penalized.

That's what I loved about Ultima Online. Characters were basically "Here are 100 possible skills to learn and 5 base stats. You get 700 points to distribute among your skills. Good luck"

My fav part was that doing things that require strength made you stronger, doing dexterous tasks increased dexterity etc.

While fun, the game was also an absolute nightmare for beginners. You really needed to find friends that knew what they were doing to help you out. This of course created a wonderful community.

[pcnix]

Have you tried Path of Exile? You might enjoy it.

[Zarath]

+1 for PoE. The only reason I don't play is because I can't stop when I do.

[intended]

Haha of course - and absolutely right. I loved it.

[pennaMan]

The recently released Albion Online feels a lot like UO (and also has some of the sandbox territory control of EVE)