[WisNorCan]

It's interesting to see how all the chaos at the board and management level has affected employees. Data from LinkedIn paints a troubling picture both in terms of hiring and retention.

* Uber has 31,537 employees as of August 2017.

* New hiring is down from 1000 per month in 2016 to 500 a month in 2017. July was the lowest month since the start of LinkedIn data which is August 2015 @ 440 hires.

* There are currently 8,000 job openings. Operations and Engineering are the two largest categories.

* With every 100 people that are hired. ~80 people are departing the company.

Hiring managers I have talked to say that it is very challenging to attract strong candidates to Uber and it is demoralizing because their best people are leaving.

[malandrew]

> Uber has 31,537 employees as of August 2017.

If that's the number you are getting from LinkedIn, then you can consider the LinkedIn numbers to be absolutely worthless. That number is 2x to 3x the actual value.

[WisNorCan]

Yes, that is directly from the LinkedIn dashboard for Uber [1] which has company employment data. I am assuming that they are dependent on people listing their employment as Uber for it to be correct. I believe you have to be a Premium user to get the data.

Where did you get the 2x to 3x data point? Also, does your data source show anything different on the other issues around slowing of hiring and additional churn this year at Uber?

It is possible that the top line # might be problematic because it requires self reporting, but there is still signal in the # of people that are self reporting joining and leaving.

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/1815218/

[tyingq]

Probably a lot of Uber drivers, who are not employees, choose to list themselves as such.

[jasonbarone]

> Yes, that is directly from the LinkedIn dashboard for Uber [1] which has company employment data. I am assuming that they are dependent on people listing their employment as Uber for it to be correct. I believe you have to be a Premium user to get the data.

You're sourcing Linkedin for employment data and using that to say there's a churn problem at Uber?

[WisNorCan]

LinkedIn shows new hires and total employees. Churn can easily be calculated by [June Employees] + [June New Hires] - [July Employees]

[jasonbarone]

Good plan. It's not like that number includes vendors, contractors, drivers or anything that could skew the numbers.

[WisNorCan]

Sarcasm doesn’t really help to move a conversation forward.

At some point, you will learn to try to extract signal from imperfect data. It’s a key skill. If you wait for perfect data, you will miss the trends until they are in the rear view mirror.

Unless you believe that there has been a sudden mix shift in vendors vs. employees, the general analysis of churn and hiring still hold. You are only debating the multiplier on numerator and denominator.

Those are less important.

[elmar]

>Uber has 31,537 employees

Uber now has about 14,000 employees.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/technology/uber-chief-tra...

[sjg007]

Why so many people?

[tristanj]

Many of the 30,000+ employees are non-tech. Uber needs lots of hires for driver recruitment, training, support. They have people on the ground in every region they operate.

[needless2]

do they get paid okay?

[johnnyfaehell]

Depends on what you consider "okay". For most people who will join I suspect they will think it's okay money.

[anujabro]

Also likely drivers list they work at Uber

[dbbk]

I imagine there are people working in every city (and every country) focused on that local market.

[djsumdog]

> I heard someone talk about interviewing at Uber as a practice interview before interviewing with companies they are actually interested in.

That is kinda hilarious.