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by vvanders 3235 days ago
Yes, however common diesel fuels tend to be higher in NOx and particulates.

My understanding is that because gasoline is refined to a higher degree it burns a fair bit cleaner in similar environments(and also makes it a PITA to store for more than a few months).

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We've got a pair of tractors around the house here, '81 diesel(pre-emissions), and '47 gasser.

I can tell you which one I prefer to run from an exhaust perspective, the diesel may have torque and is a dead-simple engine but you don't want to be downwind of it when cutting heavy brush.

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NOx emissions from a diesel engine are from atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen, not from the fuel. I welcome further clarifications, but my understanding is that this engine will not produce NOx like a standard diesel because the fuel/air mix will be tightly controlled like in a gasoline engine, and temperature and pressure will be significantly less than a standard diesel. Additionally, it seems the timing of the fuel injection will be much earlier than a diesel, resulting in more complete air/fuel mixture; this is possible because gasoline has a higher ignition temperature, so fuel can be injected early and ignition won't happen until the compression stroke; diesel fuel would ignite during injection regardless of where in the cycle.
I'm struggling with the same reasoning: NOx is the result of high combustion temperatures, which is a pure function of the compression ratio (and fuel mixture), which is the thing that defines the high efficiencies you can get with a diesel cycle.

The argument in the linked wikipedia entry is that combustion temperatures are lower in this cycle because the better fuel/air mixing means it can burn much leaner and thus at a lower temperature. But a leaner mixture means lower power for a given displacement too, which means lower efficiency than a comparable traditional diesel (which are already hard-pressed to see gains like the 40% claimed against well-tuned gas engines).

Honestly the whole thing sounds very snake oily to me. I don't deny that it's possible such a thing could be tuned to operate as well as a traditional engine, but... it sounds awfully fiddly. I'd want to see numbers from a production engine in a real car before placing any bets. Electric continues to look like a much better bet to my eyes.

I don't buy the wikipedia argument either, but I do believe the homogenous charge mixture will burn at a lower temperature for a given compression ratio than the equivalent stratified charge.

Throwing f/a into the mix, the HCCI mode is apparently only active during low-power cruise, so the lean mixture is fine. The Mazda innovation is controlling the changeover from HCCI to SI when more power is demanded.

According to wikipedia the fuel can be a large source of nitrogen for NOx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOx#Fuel