[durge]

It's not quite that rosy on the guns and butter issues there. I moved to Van for grad school from the Midwest looking for opportunity, worked for two years after my degree and then moved back stateside. One makes so little money there, housing is really steep, and it's hard to responsibly start a family. But you do get to feel good about that other stuff.

[eli_gottlieb]

>One makes so little money there, housing is really steep, and it's hard to responsibly start a family.

How's that different from your average major metro area in the USA? Or, for that matter, anywhere else in the First World right now?

[DarkKomunalec]

3rd most unaffordable in the world: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/demographia-i...

[durge]

I can't really speak from experience on the Canadian mid-major metros, as I only experienced 'big' Vancouver. But there is a bevy of American cities where you can actually save and have little ones (Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Sun Belt, Des Moines). Maybe it's like that in Ontario? Anyways, looking over the next twenty years of my life, the opportunity cost of living in Vancouver was huge, and not just because of the exchange rate.