[savanaly]

Analyzing how websites work without Google or Facebook given that they were designed with the availability of those in mind is pointless. To truly see what it would be like without Google or Facebook we'd have to test how websites work without Google or Facebook given that they were designed without the availability of those in mind.

The saying "if things were different, things would be different" comes to mind.

[staltz]

It's not about how websites depend on Google or Facebook being available. It's about the leverage Google and Facebook gain over you through data collection once they are nearly omnipresent on the web, and the growing inability of opting-out from those two tech giants without crippling your basic web experience.

[LambdaComplex]

The point is, they were designed that way. And that's the problem.