[BearGoesChirp]

>At some point in the (very) near future, we'll all be forced to realize that the deck is stacked against you if you're black in America.

Why did you pick race instead of gender? The justice system is far more sexist than racist, and if our society won't come to terms with how far the legal system is stacked against men, why would it ever come to terms with how far it is stacked against minorities?

[MichaelGG]

True: Police kill men with a 22x bias over women. What justification does anyone have for accepting this, and why can't a similar justification be applied to race?

[zimpenfish]

Because men commit the vast majority of violent crimes in the US and are therefore much more likely to encounter a lethal response from the police?

[BearGoesChirp]

What about the people who make a similar claim concerning race?

[zimpenfish]

From what I remember of arguments in 2015-16, the differential between "% of violent crimes" and "% of people killed by police" for POC is huge - much bigger than the one for purely "male" (which obviously has an overlap anyway.)

[vyhd]

Because their comment is talking about race. Why do you feel the need to take attention away from that?

[BearGoesChirp]

Because even among those who are looking at abuse and discrimination in our legal system, there seems to be a systematic lack of focus on sexism. Is the reasoning due to a lack of awareness of sexism, which seems unlikely given we are talking about the group that is vigilante of police discrimination. Or is the group itself largely unconcerned and thus showing their own biases.

And I use 'group' loosely since it is really more of a sub-culture than a defined organization.

Look at it this way, a black man that is unjustly shot by police is more likely to be shot because he is a man than because he is black. If we want to stop unjust shootings, we should focus on the factors leading most to them, or which racism is second behind sexism (and maybe third behind classism, though since class is less apparent in short interactions than race and gender, it may end up not being as big an influence until we get to the court room).

[ejfox]

You are saying some very out-there things without citation.

"The justice system is far more sexist than racist" - what evidence do you have for this statement?

"a black man that is unjustly shot by police is more likely to be shot because he is a man than because he is black" What about this one?

[belorn]

A group of actors made a youtube video that strongly reminds me of this discussion. They had a black man, white man, black woman and white woman being in a park and dismantling a bike lock.

For the black man, passers by rushed him, knocked him down by force, and called the police.

For the white man, people pointed, talking loudly about "what is he doing", and one person called the police.

For the black woman, people ignored, regardless what she did to the lock.

For the white woman, people went to help her break the lock.

If random people have this sense of justice in regard to a fairly common crime like bike theft, then why should we be surprised if the criminal system have similar bias?