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by Top19 3245 days ago
What's with all the survivorship bias in these responses? For every person you know that's made money in an MLM, that mathematically means there were 1,000 people AT MINIMUM below them who were scammed somewhere around $300 to usually $20,000 (when you're poor that can be 3 months worth of savings and the difference between taking multiple overdraft hits + a title loan) to live a hijacked version of the American Dream. The burned relationships are even more significant, again especially with people in poverty where family is everything. Look at "A Framework for Understanding to Poverty" by Ruby Payne for more on this.

Btw of course a scam will make some people successful, that's what scams do, take people's money. If someone isn't getting rich, it isn't a scam in the end.

That being said, MLMs are weird and quite honestly conceptually bizarre to reason through. They thrive on this and they operate in the gaps and blindspots of human reasoning.

Here's another way to describe MLMs:

-1). They get you hyped up on success and by borrowing the best of innovations that were mastered by Evangelical churches and various performing arts over the last 200 years (see Aimee Mcpherson, the amazing female preacher from LA and the inspiration for the male preacher in "There Will Be Blood" with Daniel Day Lewis).

-2). By pretending to have a business they can sell you a $500 or so "gold" level business kit to launch your business.

-3). They then get you so hyped up you talk to all of your friends, reluctantly 2 or 3 of them buy. Now the MLM has made $500 + $1000 or so from your friends. That means you as a "mark" has been taken for $1500.

-4). Rinse and repeat with your other friends, burning social circles and harvesting the ashes as you go.

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A shorter way of putting it is probably:

If products don't get sold to actual consumers in sufficient numbers to pay everyone, then the money has to come from somewhere. It generally comes from "lower" distributors that one signs up. Those who are successful and see a profit by doing this talk about it; those who lose money do not.

Ergo, no social good, the majority of people talking about it are successful, and it ruins lives.

kind like the whole venture/startup industry. promote lottery mentality. pay below market rates for the effort and time put into to startups. only a few get rewarded. Only difference they seduce you with your own ideas.
How many people spend thousands of hours building "start ups"

Imagine if venture, incubators, etc. had to pay market rates for all the work that goes into it.